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1 INTERNATIONAL FALLS PRESS PAGE SEVEN Q. In International Falls? A. There has been in International of the last grand jury was criticized in the presence of Mr. Green? Border Wholesale Neat & Grocery Falls in connection with this investigation two factions, men who A. Possibly. have taken an active part for and against the investigation. There Q. Yes. And the men on that grand jury were discussed, were is also a class of people in thifc town who have taken no particular Company they not, in the presence of Mr.,Green? A. Possibly they were. part either way, have had very little to say about it. Now, among THE COURT: Well, I shoul dthink your answers could be a those people who have taken part in it I have an opinion, naturally, little more definite. as to who believe in carrying the investigation to a finish and those C. A. YERNBERG, Manager The Witness: Well, your honor, those matters came up in an who want to see it stopped. Does that answer your question? informal way and I don't remember when they come up. O. Yes. Now, have you any reason for believing that Mr. Green Wholesale and Retail Meats, Groceries, Fruits and Feed THE COURT: Well, the answer "possibly," is not very satisfactory. confined his selection or made it very largely from the people who You can answer yes or no, and if you don't know, say so. favored carrying on the prosecution? A. Why, Mr. Green has expressed The Witness All right. himself to me a number of times or in my- presence at Home-Made Sausage and Hamburger (Last question read.) /east, that he wanted to see the investigation carried through so that THE COURT: Do you understand the question? A. Yes, I understand everybody would have a good, fair and clean investigation. From Give Us a Trial and You Will Stay With Us the question. I was just trying to think if I could be positive what he has said, I would naturally suppose that in drawing that list Our Prices Are Always Right and Our Stock Always Fresh about it. I think it was, yes. 1/will say yes. he would draw men who he thought would do just that. Mr. Kane: at that time knew Mr.-Green :4 Q. Now, you that was Mr. Kane: I don't think that quite answers your question, Mr. commissioner the district whose to filet the list a of duty it was of Weeks. litis Block, Third Street, International Falls, Minn. jurors in January the June term court, both petit and grand for of Mr Weeks: Just read the question, Mr. Reporter, and the an(Last juries, didn't you? A. Personally I knew that Mr. Green was the swer. question and answer read.) maij whose duty it was to gfile the list for petit and grand jurymen. O. Now, you will note that my question calls for whether you At the time that we were having these discussions I didn know have any grounds for believing as to the coterie from which he selected whether the lists had been filed or not. I know this, that about the his list of grand jurors, have you any reason for believing, do time that special grand jury was* ordered, I asked somebody if the JOHN M. GISH you know whether or not he selected his list from the men who were boar dof county commissioners had prepared their lists at the January in favor of the prosecution or whether he selected them from the meeting. men whom you have characterized as neutral Mr. McPartlin: Q. Were any meetings held by you and Mr. A. Yes, I think from what my conversation with Mr.— Watchmaker and Jeweler Arnold and Mr. lCeyes and Mr. Green and Dr. Withrow after the order Q. No, not your conversation with him, but what you know of the court was made calling for a special, grand jury and the $c- about the standing of these men. drawing of the grand jury? A. That meeting of February 5th was THE COURT: From your knowledge of the men. held afterwards. MR. WEEKS: Yes. A. From my knowledge of these men and O. Any other meetings? A. There was a meeting held before my knowledge of Mr. Green and his ideas in connection with this Agent for Singer Sewing the order was issued at which the question came up as to the discussion investigation, it seems to me that Mr. Green would draw his men came up as to the probability of getting a special grand jury, from those men that I call neutral, that would want to be right. Machine Company and but I believe that is the only one, but that was before. Q. Well, you know pretty definitely whom the men are that you Q. Mr. Arnold was consulted on that matter, was he? A. lhe Woodstock Typewriter. call neutral, don't you? A. Why, I would, yes, to a certain extent. question came up in this way: The grand jury at that time had had Q. Now, do you know the names of the men whom Mr. Green the matters under consideration for some time, had not reportedi, placed on the grand jury list? A. The only names— and as I remember it, the question came in, what could be done, or Q. Just answer the question? A. No. what best to do in case the grand jury refused to indict. Q. Do you know any of them? A. Those that were drawn. Mr. Kane: O. Mr. Green at that meeting? A. I would say Also dealer in Q. Now, as to those that were drawn from his district and who that he was. must have been placed on the list at his suggestion, would you say Mr. McPartlin: Q. And that was the principal question of discussion, Wear-U-Well Shoes that those men were neutral what would the parties interested in the investigation do if A. I would. this grand jury refused to bring any indictments, or neglected to? Mr. McPartlin: O. Do you consider Mr. Liljeblad neutral? A. The principal part of the discussion was whether or not it was go A. I have talked to Mr. Liljeblad. ing to be possible to get a special grand jury. THE COURT: Just answer the question. Mr. Kane: Q. Well, that was considered by you, Keyes, Withrow, A. Yes. Arnold and Green, before the grand jury that was then in session We Loan Money Mr. McPartlin: Hasn't he taken part in discussion of the advancement was discharged by the court, was it not? A. Yes, I think it was. of the investigation in your presence? O. And it was because they had not brought in any indictments, A. I have talked with him, yes. wasiVtit? A. It was because of the failure to indict, yes. O. Hasn't he been very much in favor of the continuance of the Q. Well, at that time had they not returned some thirty-gne in investigation? A. He has been in favor of a continuance of the dictments into this court? A. They had returned nothing in connecion investigation. with the couny invesigation matters. Q. Expressed himself very decidedly on it? A. He possibly has Q. So hat the question you had in mind then was the one of This Bank loans money. That's the way we make our expressed himself decidedly on the investigation, yes. I will go that securing a special grand jury because no indictments had been returned living. But we don't loan money foolishly nor for improvident far. in the investigation matters A. That was the idea. Q. Do you class as neutrals parties who want the investigation Q. And the commissioner of this district took part in that meet purposes. and parties who want to stop it? A. I do as far as criminal proceedings ing with you? A. I think he did, yes. It is our ambition to see this community prosper and are concerned. Mr. McPartlin: Q. The purpose of getting a special grand jury it is decidedly to our advantage to see that it does prosper, Q. Do you know anything aboi^t the attitude of Watrous?— was for the purpose of getting indictments, was it? A. The purpose because, if the community prospers our deposits will increase A. No, I don't know anything about the attitude of Watrous. of the special grand jury, as I understood it, and as I have advocated and we will have more money to loan. It can readily be O. You know that Henry Keyes who was placed on the list was a brother of Frank Keyes? seen, thefefore, that we cannot consistently loan money for Mr. Weeks: I don't believe that is material. The court is taking A. I don't know that his name was on the list. any purpose not conductive to the best interests of the community the responsibility in that regard. Q. The only ones you knew were the ones that were drawn? THE COURT: I will hear this answer to that question. in general and the borrower in particular. On this A. The only men-1 know are those that were drawn on this jury. A. Was for the purpose of getting a grand jury in whom the -basis this bank loans money gladly. O. Is Henry Keyes "partial or impartial? You know him pretty people of County would have confidence, or believe tlrat Koochiching well? A. Well, do you want my opinion of Henry Keyes? a fair investigation had been had of this matter. This is possibly my Q. Do you consider him partial or impartial, that is all personal opinion as expressed by others was that this investigation A. I think that Henry Keyes would make a fair and impartial has been started and it has gone along this far and cannot be properly We Loan Money on Farm Lands. Call and See Us juror on this matter. I don't believe that anybody could get Henry settled until it has been completely and fairly investigated and Keyes to indict anybody or do anybody a wrong, knowingly. the investigation carried to the end, and the idea was that we wanted Mr. Kane: Q. Well, you have that same impression of Frank, a grand jury that would investigfate it and make a thorough investigation. The First National Bank haven't you? A. Yes, I have the same impression of Frank. 0. Would you consider Frank a fair juror? THE COURT: It was the sentiment of those at the meeting A. Frank,— in this case I would consider Frank was, on account that indictments should result from an investigation A. The sentiment of his interest he has taken and the part he has taken in the investigation, was that there were matters and irregularities— might be biased, but I don't believe that Frank would do anything THE COURT: Yes. A. —sufficient to warrant indictmnts. to hurt' anybody. THE COURT: And for that reason that anew grand jury, they Q. Oh, nOj but it is the state of mind. A. As far as I know, any hoped, would be ordered? A. Yes. thing that Henry has had to do with the investigation, he has not THE COURT: So that indictments might be secured? A. Yes, F. C. ROGERS had the active partthat Frank has. that was the idea. O. Do you know how active Henry has been in the investigation? Mr. Weeks: Q. Mr. Phinney, did you ever talk with Mr. Arnold about what men should be drawn on that grand jury list A. Well, in connection with that, I don't know. I know that I A. Not with Mr. Arnold or anybody else as individuals. have never talked with Henry and I know that he has never been at Q. What is that? A. Not as individuals. I might have expressed PRACTICAL FURRIER any of our meetings. the opinion, or the hope that a list would be drawn of men whom we Mr. McPartlin Q. You never heard that Frank Green had pre knew were right. Fort Frances, Ontario pared his list several days before the county board met, made the Q. Now, did you express it that way, or did you express it as list A. I would not say whether I did or not. being men who should belong to a certain faction—there are two factions O. You don't remember of having seen it? A. No, I didn't see here in the county, isn't there? There is no disguising that THE OLDEST EXCLUSIVE FUR HOUSE the list. fact, A. There is no disguise in it, no. 0. Didn't take part in advising him? A. No. Q. And each faction is made up of men who are interested, IN THE WORLD 01* Mr. Kane: I was just scanning over this list to see whether were interested in the prosecution on the one hand,'and on the other Henry Keyes is on that list. My impression is that he was and 1 hand, the county officials, or a great many 01 them, the contractors would like to just scan the list to make sure. I don't want to leave and their friends, is that it? A. That is it. any wrong impression. It was a misunderstanding in that respect Q. And you refer to the county officials who were under investigation on this matter, your honor. We do not find the name of Henry and the contractors and their friends as their crowd, don't Keyes on that. I thought it was on. That is the reason we referred you? A. Yes, sir. to it. O. Was there anything said at any time that "you must not get anybody that is friendly to the other crowd you must get our friends February 14, 1917, 8:00 o'clock P. M. .'J on here?" A. No, sir. To illustrate what I mean, the settlement C. L. SHEERAN, being first duly sworn, testified as follows: was expressed by myself and a number of others that it was our desire Examined by Mr. McPartlin: Q. You are a resident of Benson. and hope that a grand jury would be drawn of men who, while Minnesota? A. Yes, sir. they had not taken an active part on either side, were right. 0. Have been for some time past? A. Yes, sir. THE COURT: What do you mean by "right," men that would 0. You were in attendance upon court at the session of the return indictments? A. We meant by "right" men who would take grand jury at the beginning of this term? A. Yes, sir. the evidence that was produced before them and decide the case on the videnc. At least, that is my meaning of the word in connection Q. Do you recall when you departed for your home in Benson from International Falls after attending court? A. Yes, sir. with this anything in connection with this matter that I might have 0. About what date was that? A. Well, I reported here on the said to anybody was along that line. 22nd of January I think it was on Monday and I was excused the Mr. Weeks: Q. Did you ever hear Mr. Green express any satisfaction following Monday. That was somewhere around the last\f the with the list that he had put inas to their being right A. No. Q. Did you ever hear him say that his quota on the grand jury month, I believe, on the 29th. I am not sure right now and I left for Benson the following Friday night. he knew how they stood, what their opinions were before he put EXPORTER AND IMPORTER OF Q. How long were you in International Falls on Friday? them on A. No, sir, I did not. RAW FURS Q. Did he ever talk to you before the drawing of the grand jury A. I was here all that day. Q. Did you have any conversation with any person at that time list about what names he intended to put on? A. He did not. Q. Do you know of "his having talked with anybody else, has it with reference to the new grand jury which was intended to be selected? A. Yes, I did. ever been reported to you that he talked to anybody else about the Q. With whom A. Well, among others, Mr. Hasselbarth. names? A. No, sir. Q.Have you any knowledge or information as to whether he did Q. And that was on Friday before the grand jury was selected A. Yes, sir. know where the men stood that he put on the grand jury list? Highest Cask Prices P«ud on Q. Have you seen the list now on file with the clerk of court of A. No, sir. Raw Furs Q. Have you any reason for believing that he knew it? grand jurors chosen by the county board? A. I have seen a copy of the list, yes. A. Any reason for believing that he knew where they— Q. Where they stood? A. Why, yes. Q. When did you see a copy of it He will pay the duty and war tax on all furs from the United Q. And what are those reasons? ?A. Well, wait a minute, I A. Well, I have a copy of my .own and I have seen it in the papers. States and pay as high a price for them as any want to modify that answer. Will you read his question 72 house in the United States. (Questions and answer read as follows: "Q. Have you any Q. I mean of the complete list, names A. Oh, no. knowledge or information as to wether he did know where the men Q. The complete list of 72 names you never saw? A. No. stood that eput on the grand jury list A. No, sir. Q. Now, you may state the conversation that you had with Mr. Q. Have you any reason for believing that he knew it?") Hasselbarth on Friday preceding the drawing of the jury? BE SURE AND SEE ME BEFORE YOU SELL OR BUY A. I will change my answer. No, I don't know or have any reason A. Well, I left here on Monday and came back on Friday.- I was C. ROGERS 1 to know that he knew where any man stood. '-Vr down around Baudette and Clemenson and those towns and when I V' 5 Q. WeU, you fellows know pretty well to which one of two fac- got back I had all day here and that morning I was over to see Billy tions jttitf people in this district, at least, belong, don't »n't you? you? Hasselbarth"arranging about some mackinaw clothing then-1 went, in again thrat evening about seven o'clock I went down to^^Bo^